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	<title>Comments on: Bye bye MySQL?</title>
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	<description>It&#039;s all about me, mysql and Einstein.</description>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-236234</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mariadb is brached from mysql 5.3 and licensed to be opensource forever by mysql&#039;s original developer. it&#039;s binary backwards compatible and actively developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mariadb is brached from mysql 5.3 and licensed to be opensource forever by mysql&#8217;s original developer. it&#8217;s binary backwards compatible and actively developed.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-189930</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For now, please send me an e-mail.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-189585</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 23:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read on the MySQL message boards that you have a PHP-based MySQL query parser. Do you have that available anywhere? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read on the MySQL message boards that you have a PHP-based MySQL query parser. Do you have that available anywhere? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Arjen Lentz</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-162102</link>
		<dc:creator>Arjen Lentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few points of illumination...

Oracle would buy the brand, not the code, which as you know is GPL. Many of the developers are active outside of Sun, for instance in Monty Program Ab and Percona, and with service providers like Open Query, Proven Scaling and 42SQL.
It&#039;s not even other people picking up where Sun/MySQL might leave off, it&#039;s the same people who are active right now anyway.

Secondly, PostgreSQL has always been &quot;better&quot; than MySQL, for a fairly wide range of definitions of &quot;better&quot;. Yet today MySQL runs most of Web 2.0, and PostgreSQL does not. In a way this is no different from how it was 10-15 years ago. There&#039;s many things MySQL sucks at, but it gets used most.
Being blinded by hatred and envy isn&#039;t going to change this.
Consider that &quot;better&quot; is possibly not a relevant selection criterion? The lack of sufficient growth of PostgreSQL (comparable to others in the field) is not about quality, it&#039;s about approach and understanding of the market in which we operate. Without a change there, PostgreSQL will not gain regardless of what happens to MySQL. Similarly, PostgreSQL could gain a lot more users regardless of other players in the market.

As you well know, MySQL has tapped a huge crowd of essentially non-consumers when it comes to RDBMS. For most of its userbase it has not taken away from another RDBMS. This should be a lesson.

My background? I own a company that primarily focuses on MySQL-related services. I personally recommend PostgreSQL for tasks that require for instance advanced geospatial capabilities, since MySQL only has rudimentary planar support and PostGIS is fully featured. I say this without any qualification or malintent. When it comes to GIS, PostgreSQL is probably the best choice out there. It can also be an excellent choice for other deployments.

Still, that does not make PostgreSQL the easiest to use or manage, scale, and so forth. The available skills out there are limited, and for that reason alone people might choose MySQL over PostgreSQL. That&#039;s just one of the many aspects.

PostgreSQL&#039;s success in the world is in many ways a simple business and marketing challenge. It requires in-depth understanding of these realms. If I had the time and the funding, it would be a brilliant pleasure to explore the opportunities. Not to prove myself right, but to help enable PostgreSQL&#039;s opportunities that it really does deserve.

What the PostgreSQL users and supports can do to help their cause, is to read once more over what&#039;s been said, consider the sense of the comments such as the ones on this post, and turn a page. You have the people, you have a good product, the rest is really up to you.
This is not about MySQL or anything else. This is about you.
Go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few points of illumination&#8230;</p>
<p>Oracle would buy the brand, not the code, which as you know is GPL. Many of the developers are active outside of Sun, for instance in Monty Program Ab and Percona, and with service providers like Open Query, Proven Scaling and 42SQL.<br />
It&#8217;s not even other people picking up where Sun/MySQL might leave off, it&#8217;s the same people who are active right now anyway.</p>
<p>Secondly, PostgreSQL has always been &#8220;better&#8221; than MySQL, for a fairly wide range of definitions of &#8220;better&#8221;. Yet today MySQL runs most of Web 2.0, and PostgreSQL does not. In a way this is no different from how it was 10-15 years ago. There&#8217;s many things MySQL sucks at, but it gets used most.<br />
Being blinded by hatred and envy isn&#8217;t going to change this.<br />
Consider that &#8220;better&#8221; is possibly not a relevant selection criterion? The lack of sufficient growth of PostgreSQL (comparable to others in the field) is not about quality, it&#8217;s about approach and understanding of the market in which we operate. Without a change there, PostgreSQL will not gain regardless of what happens to MySQL. Similarly, PostgreSQL could gain a lot more users regardless of other players in the market.</p>
<p>As you well know, MySQL has tapped a huge crowd of essentially non-consumers when it comes to RDBMS. For most of its userbase it has not taken away from another RDBMS. This should be a lesson.</p>
<p>My background? I own a company that primarily focuses on MySQL-related services. I personally recommend PostgreSQL for tasks that require for instance advanced geospatial capabilities, since MySQL only has rudimentary planar support and PostGIS is fully featured. I say this without any qualification or malintent. When it comes to GIS, PostgreSQL is probably the best choice out there. It can also be an excellent choice for other deployments.</p>
<p>Still, that does not make PostgreSQL the easiest to use or manage, scale, and so forth. The available skills out there are limited, and for that reason alone people might choose MySQL over PostgreSQL. That&#8217;s just one of the many aspects.</p>
<p>PostgreSQL&#8217;s success in the world is in many ways a simple business and marketing challenge. It requires in-depth understanding of these realms. If I had the time and the funding, it would be a brilliant pleasure to explore the opportunities. Not to prove myself right, but to help enable PostgreSQL&#8217;s opportunities that it really does deserve.</p>
<p>What the PostgreSQL users and supports can do to help their cause, is to read once more over what&#8217;s been said, consider the sense of the comments such as the ones on this post, and turn a page. You have the people, you have a good product, the rest is really up to you.<br />
This is not about MySQL or anything else. This is about you.<br />
Go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-161879</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bye bye MySQL...


welcome PostgreSQL.


I for one welcome our new (or better old ever existing) SQL overlord</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye bye MySQL&#8230;</p>
<p>welcome PostgreSQL.</p>
<p>I for one welcome our new (or better old ever existing) SQL overlord</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-161462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using PostgreSQL for 6 years instead of MySQL.  Personally I find it simpler to use with a better set of tools (pgAdmin) including web enabled tools such as phpPgAdmin.  I see this as a good opportunity for Postgres to grab a hold of a bigger piece of the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using PostgreSQL for 6 years instead of MySQL.  Personally I find it simpler to use with a better set of tools (pgAdmin) including web enabled tools such as phpPgAdmin.  I see this as a good opportunity for Postgres to grab a hold of a bigger piece of the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-161409</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fake51: I&#039;m not comparing quality there, but market share. PostgreSQL has only got something like 7% of the market.</description>
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		<title>By: Fake51</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-161317</link>
		<dc:creator>Fake51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MySQL has remained to be the only serious open-source RDBMS though.&quot;

Where do you get this from? PostgreSQL is at least as serious as mysql. Having worked with both, I don&#039;t see an advantage on the part of Mysql over Postgres ... I really don&#039;t.

Regards
Fake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MySQL has remained to be the only serious open-source RDBMS though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where do you get this from? PostgreSQL is at least as serious as mysql. Having worked with both, I don&#8217;t see an advantage on the part of Mysql over Postgres &#8230; I really don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Fake</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-161251</link>
		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oracle likes mysql, it won&#039;t go anywhere</description>
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		<title>By: FACORAT Fabrice</title>
		<link>http://www.jasny.net/articles/bye-bye-mysql/comment-page-1/#comment-161227</link>
		<dc:creator>FACORAT Fabrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some links :
http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL
http://www.teknico.net/devel/myvspg/index.en.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some links :<br />
<a href="http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL</a><br />
<a href="http://www.teknico.net/devel/myvspg/index.en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.teknico.net/devel/myvspg/index.en.html</a></p>
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