Comments on: RE: How to choose an Ajax Framework http://www.jasny.net/articles/re-how-to-choose-an-ajax-framework/ It's all about me, mysql and Einstein. Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:08:00 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Arnold Daniels http://www.jasny.net/articles/re-how-to-choose-an-ajax-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3951 Arnold Daniels Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:54:34 +0000 http://blog.adaniels.nl/?p=49#comment-3951 First of all, lets drop the childish syntax discussions, both forms are correct. Second there is no need to specify the definition to me. These days Ajax frameworks embody much more than asynchronous communication, even though that is what the definition states. If you look at Dojo for instance, the Ajax communication layer is only a small piece and the widgets are just as important. Except of Flex, all the example frameworks do use Javascript and XML. Flex uses actionscript and XML, which to my opinion as a technicality. The importance is not about the inner workings of a software lib, but the problems it solves and possibilities it creates. Anyone looking into creating a more advanced web applications, first decide which of these 3 types is best. First of all, lets drop the childish syntax discussions, both forms are correct. Second there is no need to specify the definition to me.

These days Ajax frameworks embody much more than asynchronous communication, even though that is what the definition states. If you look at Dojo for instance, the Ajax communication layer is only a small piece and the widgets are just as important.

Except of Flex, all the example frameworks do use Javascript and XML. Flex uses actionscript and XML, which to my opinion as a technicality.
The importance is not about the inner workings of a software lib, but the problems it solves and possibilities it creates. Anyone looking into creating a more advanced web applications, first decide which of these 3 types is best.

]]> By: Thomas Hansen http://www.jasny.net/articles/re-how-to-choose-an-ajax-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-3942 Thomas Hansen Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:09:38 +0000 http://blog.adaniels.nl/?p=49#comment-3942 Hi Arnold (yup it's me :) I don't disagree with you (very much) but the fact you're ignoring is that my list of Ajax Frameworks was just that; _Ajax_ Frameworks (btw, it's with small letters - j, a and x) Ajax means Asynchronous JavaScript And XML( - HTTPRequest someone will argue) which is a requirement that none of the above RIA (Rich Internet Application) Frameworks can meet... (Since they neither use JavaScript nor XMLHTTPRequest) RIA is a superset of Ajax which encapsulates all the other Frameworks you're mentioning, but unless they totally rebuild their entire platforms neither Adobe, MSFT nor Lazlo will be able to call their RIA Frameworks for Ajax Frameworks... I even mention this (very subtle) myself too in the original blog where I say "Fat Client Solution like Silverlight, Flex etc"... Btw, the commenting bug (I think) is due to session timeout (weak solution) when you're spending more than 20 minutes writing your comment... Hi Arnold (yup it’s me :)
I don’t disagree with you (very much) but the fact you’re ignoring is that my list of Ajax Frameworks was just that; _Ajax_ Frameworks (btw, it’s with small letters – j, a and x)
Ajax means Asynchronous JavaScript And XML( – HTTPRequest someone will argue) which is a requirement that none of the above RIA (Rich Internet Application) Frameworks can meet…
(Since they neither use JavaScript nor XMLHTTPRequest)
RIA is a superset of Ajax which encapsulates all the other Frameworks you’re mentioning, but unless they totally rebuild their entire platforms neither Adobe, MSFT nor Lazlo will be able to call their RIA Frameworks for Ajax Frameworks…
I even mention this (very subtle) myself too in the original blog where I say “Fat Client Solution like Silverlight, Flex etc”…
Btw, the commenting bug (I think) is due to session timeout (weak solution) when you’re spending more than 20 minutes writing your comment…

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